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Re: Submatter Manipulation 'Achine (SubMAchine) theory

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Submatter Manipulation 'Achine theory 1.2 and some fan stor

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I don't want to edit my theory in the first post, so I'll post another, modified version. I won't swap the theories, but I'll post in in "Sub-matter theory - edited" topic.


The theory itself.

The Sub-matter Manipulation Machine (probably shorted to SubMAchine) was built as an attempt to manipulate everything, what was beyond matter and so, could manipulate matter of world without bending to its laws. It was built to make anything possible to be built in shortest time, since it can manipulate any fact on, as the name says, on the sub-matter level. It is not just capable creating diamonds from dirt - it is literally capable of creating them from nothing and in an instance. The result of Ultimate Scientific Singularity, expressed into one word. Time, space, energy and all the history are nothing solid to this machinery. It can change lives beyond life and death, it can travel in deep past and even may read imagination. Ultimate Scientific Singularity


This theory is supposed to be a conter-version of "virtual world" .

Facts used:

1. Versales (Sub 7) has different legend, than IRL.
2. By some reason, in Sub 6, there is no room after the one, which asks the ID.
. Wisdom gem from nowhere (Sub 2) as well as a megaton of soil around the lighthouse.
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Here is a fan fiction story as a bonus.

Basically, the machine could make *anything*. But it was not supposed to have own mind thinking and was supposed to do only what it is asked for with some additional features, and its mind was limited with need to log every action on material drive.

It had own Artificial Intelligence System, so it had excellent interface; you simply asked for a diamond, and it would give you a 994-gram octahedral diamond with void inside, impossible for real diamonds, and nice cyan shine, made with radiation influence - its A.I.'s favorite gem. "Wisdom Gem", as it was called. Some people were calling its first, diamond-only, types as "Flan's Wing Gem", because well-known 994-gram gems soon were modified into batteries and the "Wisdom Gem" name was officially given only to the later-built, battery-type kinds of the diamonds. It is to note, that first types of a charged gem were using material power and were slightly heavier, and had mass of 999 grams - 5 gram of pure power (as E=MC^2 teaches us). Just enough to explode Hiroshima 5 times, as I know. Later, the diamonds were used as batteries with sub-matter kind of charge, which was not bent with laws of physics and could literally capacitate power of 40 suns.

People wanted to fulfil own ambitions and started to use the Submachine with abuse (and some people - what saved them later - even started to build own worlds in own universes). So the government (it was united all over the world, and the world, very likely, was not limited with Earth) prohibited the Submachine to be used by anyone; but the shadow economy made its move and managed to get the Submachine in own hands (easy, since its location was not physical and it could be accessed anywhere and from any universe). Many people wanted easy solutions for their own problems and they simply wanted to get whatever they want. Someone wanted to escape into own world, someone wanted to have a ton of antique furniture for little prices, but most uses were truly criminal ones: thug wares, drugs, guns and even full sets of warfare.

It couldn't last long. Soon a revolution burst.
Some people were demanding from the government such a thing, as freedom of using the Submachine's possibilities at least in own personal worlds. Another ones were demanding prohibition of use, because they were afraid of a fatal error which could erase our universe or maybe the whole Multiverse.
Some people were taking part, because they wanted Submachine to disappear forever.

When the revolution have nearly turned the world to its collapse, Submachine decided to act by it own. Although the artificial intelligence (normally non-sentinent) was normally "mind-locked" from wiping anything in our world or killing anyone (so no one could order instant kills) and set up only to produce stuff, in critical situation Submachine was decided to redo everything in our world and erase all own memories. Mental blocks were removed, already developed personality was unleashed and Submachine decided to "go to the basement", apparently trying to seal itself from anyone.

After redoing everything, the AI decided to submerge "itself" (i.e. the whole own system) out from people' eyes and memories. It also decided to seal any possibility for other sub-matter manipulations in our world. The rest is unknown.

That's the story of Sub-Matter Manipulation Machine, turned into Sub-Matter Submerged Machine.




Here is a story about Mur and his crew.

How Mur was given his "karma hand". Was it an accident?
The most possible version is, that the Submachine decided to remove all the artificial worlds, but some people were born inside these worlds and Submachine had to keep them due to moral principles. Only in order to prevent uncontrollable reproduction, it decided to put them into own systems. Grow them. Give them own thoughts. Turn them into people.
The Mur's crew was made of all those people, which were living in old Submachine's artificial worlds. Probably, Submachine wants to make tests onto social interactions between people in stress to later build friends for itself.


End of this story.



Off the topic, some questions again: The most interesting, but least probable idea is that Submachine knows about their positions and those, who die (like the one in 8-0-0 location, who exploded himself, get revived in puzzles to find own place inside the integration into the machine (the mechanism of secret rooms gives a hint). The main character is, probably, the victim of the explosion on 8-0-0. Also, it is to note, that everyone in the puzzle gets a wisdom gem only to use and lose it - as a hint for the times, when everyone lost his wisdom in pursuit of own ambitions. It shows, that AI is sentient enough to play games with people trapped in... Oh, by the way, that's why we don't have to eat? A "mystery"...



Extras:

"994 karat" was not enough for a huge gem with the size, comparable with a 14-inch monitor screen (Sub' 2) or with a barrel (room 010), so I replaced it with 994 grams and mentioned "void inside" part (void was thought to be mentioned at the time of writting)

I wanted to build a theory, which may prove any other theory as plausible instead of conflicting, but brings a fresh stream, which washes away usual "it is a digital world, nothing specific" - something, which has ending different from "Thanks for testing our game console. Sincerely. M. and L.", while staying friendly to this type of endings.

It's funny, that I accidentally made a hint to an "empty room" number. I won't tell, which one it is, so here's a hint - it is mentioned in Submachine Wiki (so it is not 994).

It should be obvious, that either "ladder room" 613-614 is connected either with 232 (Kent Falls), or with 666.

A theory about "the Hell room" - it has polished stones instead of floor, so I guess it could be used as a chemical bath, with floor's soil used as a grate.

This theory may be called as "Sub-M-theory", since it tries to do same function real M-theory does: make an explanation for every theory made before.
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Re: Submatter Manipulation 'Achine (SubMAchine) theory

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So...

"Submerging" of submachines - check.
Unlimited powers like in a virtual world - check.
Reference to AI glitch and accidence - check.
Point of explorations - check.
Screwed data (1950s' and earlier, as well as wars on Kent, Connecticut) - check (the world is artificial for our poor people)
Bizarreness of the world of submachines' net - well, the AI tried to use own imagination, but decided to go without using movie samples.

A chance to "explain" any artistic anomaly within logic - check.
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Re: Submatter Manipulation 'Achine (SubMAchine) theory

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Re: i see virtually no evidence to support it.



Well, the revolution is not necessary (I have already an made alternative version of the theory, although I made this as a conclusinon form war machinery Layer 6)


Well, this idea explains everything (The Loop, for example, as well as presence of statues in it instead of blank loopage. Just like the M-theory (google it). From the idea of "sub-era" term to the idea of teleportation between universes as well as uncontrollable evolution of submachines - if they started to appear from nothing... the energy source should be capable of breaking laws of physics.

And why there are no monsters... or personal thoughts of the characther.

Actually, the M-theory uses hypothetic particles (predicted ones), just like mine - it is just built "to cover every plothole".

Nevertheless, if you don't like this "Sub-M-theory", vote for putting it into room 666 at least, because it explains its being a sample of hell. This room is supposed to be built so scary by a purpose, so just a launched evolution of submachines won't help.
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26_994 wrote:Well, this idea explains everything (The Loop, for example, as well as presence of statues in it instead of blank loopage. Just like the M-theory (google it). From the idea of "sub-era" term to the idea of teleportation between universes as well as uncontrollable evolution of submachines - if they started to appear from nothing... the energy source should be capable of breaking laws of physics.

And why there are no monsters... or personal thoughts of the characther.

Actually, the M-theory uses hypothetic particles (predicted ones), just like mine - it is just built "to cover every plothole".
M theory explains everything? huh? :P
26_994 wrote:Nevertheless, if you don't like this "Sub-M-theory", vote for putting it into room 666 at least
Wait... do you think we can vote for a theory to go in SNEE? o_O
Only the author chooses when to pick a theory for SNEE or not, we have no influence at all on it. You should ask him if that's what you want.
But anyways he hasn't accepted theories since 3 or 4 years ago, so most likely you won't get your theory in now.
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And please don't tell me you only created this in the hopes of being "immortalized" in SNEE...

I'm going to be a bit blunt: Too much Speculation and not enough evidence does not constitute a Theory, my good sir. This is merely Fan Fiction.

In the hopes that you happen to be correct, my mind will be blown. Until that day, I suggest reading up on the Wiki, as I suggested previously.

This has been a Public Submachine Theory Announcement.
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But do yourself a Favor, until the question have been answered...go far, go beyond, and believe that many things had happen until they have happen.

How else would I be able to keep my sanity, while still posting my thoughts on this forum. Knowing the fact they will be blown down on sight.

And don't let old Public Submachine Theory Announcement get you down.
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WorldisQuiet wrote:But do yourself a Favor, until the question have been answered...go far, go beyond, and believe that many things had happen until they have happen.

How else would I be able to keep my sanity, while still posting my thoughts on this forum. Knowing the fact they will be blown down on sight.

And don't let old Public Submachine Theory Announcement get you down.
He still has to evolved one day.
But I can see you are ahead of him.
The problem of putting forward a possibility that has no evidence to support it is that all we can say is that it is possible, but the probability it being correct is practically naught. It just isn't the best use of time, nothing more.
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Rooster5man wrote:And please don't tell me you only created this in the hopes of being "immortalized" in SNEE...

I'm going to be a bit blunt: Too much Speculation and not enough evidence does not constitute a Theory, my good sir. This is merely Fan Fiction.
Ehm? Speculation? Well, I just wanted to make own explanation, but went too far and got too boring.

But I needed to explain such impossible things as battles in Kent or wisdom gem from nowhere. I can't remember much wars inside GB or USA (Kent, Connecticut), so I made this.
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You can make your own explanation, but, as you just said, you "went too far" - Keep your speculation at a minimum, lest it be Fan Fiction and not a Theory.

And "impossibility" is normal for the Submachine Series. You can try to explain it, but, as I said, keep speculation at a minimum, try to tie in some facts in there.
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