Yes but as far as we know it was Mur who created the Player, there were more before him in Sub 6. The Lab Mission was a Job application
How do you define "create"? Create in the sense of:
a) Sculpted the Player to go on this mission for him willingly
b) Somehow actually made
Because A is the answer as far as I'm aware, B is a skeptical Theory.
That Note from Mur directly speaks to the Player. He would not type that if he did not expect someone to do it.
You said it yourself - He obviously left a trail of notes in the hopes that someone would actually get that far in his Mission for them.
If you want to be technical, most Notes speak to the Player, whether as a warning or a conversational-backstory (i.e. Sub7, Liz.)
I figure the Submachine Game in the Ligthouse was a Spawn Point for Mur's Victoms, if he had that spawn point, then he could just have them go strait to them
Mateusz already said Submachine is real
, so anything along the lines of "We played Submachine in the real world and ended up in this video game" is already Debunked. So would you like to elaborate on how the arcade is a "spawn point"?
Becuase if the Lighthouse was in the Core, why did Mur not have th Player go strait to the Defense System if it was right next to the Player.
There wasn't any other way out of the Lighthouse and, as Ant said, there was no instruction to turn off the DefSys. Again, this leads back to Mateusz's quote of "Why didn't the eagles fly the One Ring to Mount Doom?" Basically to develop a Plot, otherwise the Submachine series could have skipped from The Lighthouse to The Edge. And back to what Ant was saying, if the DefSys are on, then obviously, those inside the Core can't leave without the DefSys being turned off from the Edge, thus making it necessary to go through The Loop, The Lab and The Root.
Now to yesterday's discussion:
If Parts of the Winter Palace could fade out to the Unknown, who to say the Lighthouse couldn't.
Aside from the Lighthouse and their digouts being in the SubNet (since, if it's thought that you can't come back from the Outer Rim, then the Lighthouse and the digouts wouldn't be part of SNEE), I'll answer that with a quote from Mateusz, but first something I found interesting:
he also could have been transported in time (remember ending of sub2? it says: did I travel too far, or too early). too early could mean that the lighthouse teleports not only to the outer rim but also 32 years into the past. After 32 years of searching murtaugh is finally ready to return to the core. And in the core it's one day before einstein disappears.
Although hypothetical, if the Lighthouse Portal could transport to the Outer Rim while
the Lighthouse was in the Outer Rim...what's the point?
Now here's what I wanted to show you:
lighthouse is inside the core. I thought that was clear.
I've got two landmines for you to blow you away. I'm curious how nobody thought of:
1. the first submachine was built around 1900, but that's not the beginning of the submachine. that's just the beginning of the outer rim (the subnet);
2. subnet experience + karma portals. all I'm saying. just imagine.
Mateusz confirmed that much, that must mean it's still
in The Core. I don't see why he wouldn't tell us that it's in the Core when it's really in the Outer Rim.
Mur shared that Similar Desertion as the Outer Rim when he was Buried FOR THE SAME REASON, the DEATHS. Who say they Both aren't Schemers.
Who else are you referring to, Liz? Liz being "evil" is actually a Theory of Marbles's, but what, from what you quoted, leads to the conclusion Liz did that? Unless I misunderstood.
That Person might have told the Others and Liz of Murs Plan if he KNEW what was Happening.
And he probably didn't, otherwise Liz would've warned Layer 5 of Mur's potential attack when the man told her. Regardless, that note really is puzzling - about who it could be - but it could also be the same man who "fell off the Edge."
Why is Liz Apologizing for not getting to the Player first if she didn't have the Ability to do so. If she couldn't get to him she would have no Reason to Apologies because she couldn't do anything in the FIRST PLACE. Showing the Lighthouse after it was buried was still in the Core for awhile But THEN when Mur Started his Plans to Invade the Core the Lighthouse FADED INTO the Outer Rim
Or it could simply mean it was out of her power to find us and warn us that Mur's using us, and that she was busy. Look, I understand - It's a really cool idea that the Lighthouse faded into the Outer Rim after being buried, but there's little to no evidence supporting it, just like with most other Theories.
How is it not important to PROTECT the Core if by saving the Player AND the Others before the Player BEFORE they disable the Defense System?
I think you misunderstood me, and I'll say what I was trying to say - It's more important to protect the Core than save the Player in Liz's eyes, possibly. The moment she leaves the Core, anything could happen - For all she knows, the Core might rip apart when she's gone.
But he still needed a Home Base for part of that 32 Years, say like A LIGHTHOUSE! If the Lighthouse was in the Outer Rim, it would provide for a suitable Home Base to Sleep in after a Day of Exploring.
Liz's Room is the only part (besides the Digouts) where Mur could've camped out then. If he went back to the Lighthouse, shouldn't there be a note explaining it? And if the Lighthouse isn't still buried, explain the dirt mound from Sub5. The Wiki even says:
In the Lighthouse can be found a pile of dirt that has flown from above closing the rest of the lighthouse.
If The Lighthouse isn't buried and went to the Outer Rim, there would be no dirt mound.
Is the Outer Rim MORE than just an Area but its who we pass the Torch too. Maybe the People hearing the great fear that they are less better than something else; they went into denial and deserted the Outer Rim in response to that fear and the Outer Rim left them alone until Mur came and IT sees the same problem that It and Mur shared. All of what the Mutation, Mur Invasion of the Core, Revenge toward the Others, IT'S THE TORCH BEING PASS. The Inevitable of what the Computer said about the "Torch Passing" is happening.
I don't quite understand this post. Why would the Outer Rim "pass the torch"? And to the humans? So you're basically saying the Computer caused the mutations (as is a general thought) in the Outer Rim so the Humans would leave the Outer Rim alone, but, really, the Computer was telling the humans "Your move," as in it's a giant game of Chess? Interesting thought if I understood correctly, but what would this mean? What effect would this have on the plot?
My Last Post was Messy due to other problems I was struggling with at the Time, it was distracting Me.
That's fine. If you have time now, you can elaborate or edit however you like and notify me of the changes.