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WorldisQuiet5256 wrote:

Anteroinen wrote: None of these are a hundred percent certain, a as in apple being the worst offender. Vowels have heavy trickery in their quality. And c as in cats? Do you know that the c in cats is pronounced differently from the c in tick? Did you take it to consideration? B and d are relatively safe but some people over-aspirate them, some reduce ds to glottal stops...

What we have is pretty much a He said, She Said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3E8mTquePU

Yes, people pronounce things differently, it is called having dialects. If English were the tiniest bit more phonemic you'd even be able to represent that orthographically, but usually most dialectal issues fall right through English orthography choice of "BUT HISTORY!!!"

I might even go as far as doubt the teacher's pronunciation, because Polish isn't at all easy to pronounce. However, I think it is much more likely that you as an amateur, like me to be honest, were not able to hear the difference between /a/ and /ɑ/ or /ʃ/ and /ʂ̻/. This is nothing to be ashamed of, it is altogether normal not to perceive all speech sounds. I cannot tell apart /v/ and /ʋ/ and probably mispronounce English words like "veal" with /ʋ/ rather than /v/ but I do try.

So, do we call it football or soccer?
I'm talking about the game where you have a ball on a field and you kick it around with your foot only.
I'll start:

America calls it Soccer...
England calls it Football...
China calls it 足球 (literal meaning foot-ball)...
New Zealand called it football, then soccer, and now football again...
...anyone feel like adding?

http://www.pastelportal.com/forum/viewt ... p=544#p544
(Posted by Gil)

EDIT: 2400 posts, YEAH!

In Spain we just call it "football". And I think the rest of Europe does too :B

OnyxIonVortex wrote:In Spain we just call it "football". And I think the rest of Europe does too :B

this

Funny how the New Oxford American Dictionary says it's the British term for soccer (rather the rest of the world)

Vortex wrote:In Spain we just call it "football".

I thought it was spelled fútbol.

The Abacus wrote:

Vortex wrote:In Spain we just call it "football".

I thought it was spelled fútbol.

yeah, but it's an adaptation of the English word and it's pronounced the same.

OnyxIonVortex wrote:

The Abacus wrote:

Vortex wrote:In Spain we just call it "football".

I thought it was spelled fútbol.

yeah, but it's an adaptation of the English word and it's pronounced the same.

Yeah!

Football is the older word, yes. Older than than the game itself, probably. Might come from the fact that it was played "on foot" nobody really knows. Soccer is well known, though. It originates in British nineteenth century university slang for "association football".

Also, not all countries call it "football", or some close phonetic approximation thereof. There are calques like the Finnish jalkapallo, for instance.

Anteroinen wrote:Soccer is well known, though. It originates in British nineteenth century university slang for "association football".

Wow. So it comes from "association football"... I never made that connection