Movies! (and television)

[The Kakama]

May you should have gone to Sunway like I did.
Watch the movie, it was ok, but it feels a bit like a mash up of previous episodes, nothing much new.

[Sublevel 114]

Don't spoil anything here, guys. I didn't watch it yet


I have a meditation question:
srsl, what should movie creators make to get perfect sequel?

look. You need to make sequel, there are billions fans of first movies, simple movie watchers, dozens critics...

If you just make the same story as you did before, even if it will be made on the same level - people say "hey, that's just clone"

If you attempt to bring new ideas to the film - there's OR chance you fail with that, because adding something new can break root of the film universe, and everything crashes. OR you will success, but people says "hey, that's not that film. That's absolutely different product"

if you try to make mix up, then...

Oh, c'mon. If you return to old lovely universes/characters, try to show new stage of their lives... What should you do to get perfect result?

[Vortex]

I think sequels are meant to be different from the originals, while still connected in some way. Sub1 and Sub9 don't have anything in common except Murtaugh's plot, and they work as games from a series. Characters, etc. from the original can appear, but they have to do something there, not just cameos "cuz nostalgia".

And there are situations where the story is nicely closed and there's no decent way of continuing it. There are many sequels these days, and my opinion is that many of them don't work just because the original stories weren't meant to be continued.

[Sublevel 114]

wait wait wait wait

Sub1 and Sub9 is ONE game
ONE story

If Mati makes Overmachine - that would be sequel


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about closed stories:

you know, if creator make wonderful character, tells his/her story... He/she will stay in your heart forever, and you want to see him/her again. And of course, you want to see it as sequel by the same author.
But story is closed. It's finished product...
what to do?

Men, you don't even know how many inside-my-mind sequels I made during my life. But I want to see real life product.

[Vortex]

wait wait wait wait

Sub1 and Sub9 is ONE game
ONE story

If Mati makes Overmachine - that would be sequel

no, games in a series are sequels too. Even Mateusz says in the description of Sub2: "A sequel to the world's famous point and click Submachine game".

about closed stories:

you know, if creator make wonderful character, tells his/her story... He/she will stay in your heart forever, and you want to see him/her again. And of course, you want to see it as sequel by the same author.
But story is closed. It's finished product...
what to do?

Men, you don't even know how many inside-my-mind sequels I made during my life. But I want to see real life product.

If the story is closed, it normally means that the author wants to depart from it. One solution is spin-off stories, set in the same universe. But they're not as satisfying, I guess.

Sometimes when a story is closed is like when a person you love dies. If you try to revive them, something very wrong will happen, and the best thing is to deal with it.

[Sublevel 114]

no, games in a series are sequels too. Even Mateusz says in the description of Sub2: "A sequel to the world's famous point and click Submachine game".

ok ok
I meant not sequel but continuation of CLOSED STORY.
(how is it called?.. Oo)


start wars movies 1-6, as well as Sub1-10 are episodes of one grand story.
SubX must be epic finish of story, as well as Return of Jedy is finish of its story.
New trilogy is new story, because story was already closed.

X files had its finish. Now, there's only spin-offs and plans for making sequel story.
And there're thousands examples.

[Vortex]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't know how it's called, Wikipedia says it's "sidequel" but I've never heard that term. I think it's also a kind of sequel.

[The Kakama]

I meant not sequel but continuation of CLOSED STORY.

I think that's the flaw of such sequels, it's not realistic. There's no absolute ending in real life, and after episode 6 everything seems tied up. But I think plot wise they could have still done better, the continuity is there with all the characters, but they could have made them do something different.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

I'm going to see the Star Wars Film Today!

[Jatsko]

Have fun; I thought it was great