Well I was referring to the awareness of the mind. We can suppose it is an emergent property of the mind... but it really is an odd idea that matter when organized a certain way becomes aware of itself. I've heard of scientists that just concluded that all mater must somehow be aware because of how strange an idea it is that it would just emerge.
Interesting, I've never heard that (being I haven't delved myself that far into Physics XD).
So, in the context of this discussion, what if what we mean by wisdom, or even karma perhaps, is a unique force that creates awareness? Wisdom, as I understand it, means the skilled use of knowledge. An awareness has an advantage over any computer we have thus far made in that it is not simply processing through a database, but rather we are aware of the process of thinking and can make intuitive and creative leaps. What if that has something to do with this wisdom energy?
The first sentence had me thinking that Wisdom and/or Karma could create awareness (being from that idea that "matter is aware of itself"), so then about the Computer: Are you saying that Wisdom Energy, in this context, has an advantage over the AI? Or I'm completely confused...
OH WAIT! "intuitive and creative leaps" - The Wisdom Energy's presence is why we can solve elaborate puzzles! Right? Being we may be so exposed to this Energy, thus the benefit of coming out the SubNet.
From
that presumption, the SubNet's AI could be trying to trap us in an attempt to kill us, but the Wisdom Energy helps us get past these obstacles in some sort of Deus Ex Machina...? Meh, I liked where it was going though XD
Ah... ok, fine. XD Is that the mistake I made, according to Ancient Crystal???
I thought the "mistake" was your confusion over his mentioning of the study and what Wisdom Energy has to do with the brain, thus him saying it's because of "awareness."
But that last statement... "why we put the Navigator on our head..." I don't know if I missed reading a statement like that before, or just didn't fully get the implications, but that IS an interesting conclusion.
LOL, read the Theory title! That's the reason I made it - Hasn't it been a pressing thought to everybody how we put the Navigator on our heads, if Submachine is indeed real?! The assumption made is we put it on our heads in an
Inception-type deal where we're entering the Layers through our head by going, for lack of a better term, "further down the rabbit hole."
Being it's all real, what other conclusions can we make to why it's connected to our head?
Maybe, but by using that example you've also pointed out that Mur must have had the Karma arm BEFORE he got into the subnet. So what is up with that?
We don't know if we indeed have the full story on how Mur got his Karma Arm, or if it was forged - "Oh, look at me, I got a Karma Arm out of nowhere." What if Mur knew the diary note would be read by others, thus skipping details to avoid "explaining Physics to a goldfish" (or however that saying went)?
If he got his Karma Arm before entering the SubNet, then the next Theory I was about to propose is screwed...XD
Edit: Oh my Sub-lord, two more posts...Hold the phone....
Yeah. We have potential energy, kinetic energy, heat, etc. so why not karma energy?
But what kind of energy it is, that's a very different issue.
I see now
Geez, let me edit, then post...I guess that's what I deserve for posting so much XD
Indeed, we don't have to come with an elaborated description of everything, because we don't really know how the laws of the subnet work.
You're reading my mind, and yet now I have all these posts to go through XD
Perhaps I meade a bad choice of words. Forget all about "foundation" and "form". I simply meant that it might be where it's supposed to be, and do what it's supposed to do, simply in the wrong way, and thats the problem. I'll reuse my ocean example from "speculation on karma and teleports". They are supposed to be where thay are, but if they would start to, for example, boil, then all life on the planet would be lost rather soon. You could try a far less radical example, but you get my point, I hope.
I think I understand - Karma is passive, it's only doing the job it was "born" to do?
Is that even the question? (I'm unsure myself)
RedAfro answered that, so don't worry.
Yes and no. The submachine "canon" has it's own physics, but the net itself, or the karma arm, can't defy nor change them. If they were possible to defy, they wouldn't count as physical laws anymore. And I didn't say we should stick within real world physics, simply whatever physics we decide exist.
Well, you and Vortex started jumping into real-world Physics, so I didn't know what to make of it...XD
And that's what I meant by "Laws" - Not exactly that it
has Laws, but that they're a seperate set of Physics than what we know. Thank you for allowing me to clarify for any potential confusion.
I hope it makes more sense now.
I'm still not sure what you're referring to actually...I see the quotes, but could you summarize your point?
All I meant was that you seemed to assume that karma was essentially a "relocation energy", only being capable of transporting matter.
You're referring to Vortex, right? I didn't even touch on that, as far as I'm aware XD
Well, apart from the energy issue, I find it an interesting theory, and something that could support it is that the wisdom gems and the energy gem we have seen in Sub7, since they are nearly identical, could be two names for the same thing. There would still be few evidence, though, and the point that everyone should have karma powers is a potential flaw too, so my vote would be maybe between still alive/doubtful.
Yeah, that's fine, thank you! I wasn't looking for Likely, a "Still Alive" will do
