Meditations

[The Abacus]

an uncontrollable swirly mess

[The Kakama]

..that can drive you insane.Looks like we're going back to World's statement from a different dimension.

[Anteroinen]

Not really, World's statement was a piece of the most esoteric nonsense about some sort of reality that only he can percieve since he is [sic] boarderless. This is appears to be some abstract, creative realm beyond the material one that can only be described with the vaguest of metaphors and references to songs.

I might be more than a little blunt he's the one that constantly alludes to it implying we are unable to understand, without ever explaining what he means without the guise of complex metaphor.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

@WorldisQuite: Having a mind without boarders isn't necessarily an advantage. Almost every useful thing we use must have boarders to function: computers, roads, sewers, electrical conduits, etc. Boundaries create things. From the Tao Te Ching:

11. Tools
Thirty spokes meet at a nave;
Because of the hole we may use the wheel.
Clay is moulded into a vessel;
Because of the hollow we may use the cup.
Walls are built around a hearth;
Because of the doors we may use the house.
Thus tools come from what exists,
But use from what does not.

You seem to be saying either that you are all substance or all emptiness, either which is unproductive and without shape. I encourage you to accept self restraint, even if it seems to be arbitrary social norms, because these will teach you self discipline and self control, and once you've mastered those you can create the capacity to form your self into whatever shape you wish to be, and then you can always throw arbitrary norms away. As things stand, you seem to claim to have no shape.

Yet why is it I understand more than you ever will. I do have self control, I do have that big floor now don't I?

[WorldisQuiet5256]

..that can drive you insane.Looks like we're going back to World's statement from a different dimension.

Expand your Floor, use the Boards from your Boarders.

[Anteroinen]

Yet why is it I understand more than you ever will. I do have self control, I do have that big floor now don't I?

What exactly do you understand then?

EDIT: And on another point, if you take down all these borders, then what exactly is sheltering you from getting things wrong?

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Yet why is it I understand more than you ever will. I do have self control, I do have that big floor now don't I?

What exactly do you understand then?

EDIT: And on another point, if you take down all these borders, then what exactly is sheltering you from getting things wrong?

The Floor. Its a baseline,or the Foundation. Its what help me know what is up and what is down, what is true and what is not true. I not saying I don't understand the concept of Physics, the Physics is part of the Floor.

[Vurn]

It's spelled "borders".
I'm not sure what exactly you mean when you say you are *without borders* or that overly complex and dragged on for too long floor metaphor.

But I suppose these "borders" are social norms? Psychical constraints? Ok, cool. I fail to see how that is true, though.

[WorldisQuiet5256]

Borders, as in things that shape how you view the world, and parts of things that you believe is impossible, simple cause their is no proof of them.

What I did is take the Borders and used them as a Floor to explore what those deem impossible. That as best as I can describe due to the fact the words that can truly describe it don't exist.

This understanding, is not related to the Human world at all. It cannot be used for bias, it cannot be used for manipulation, it cannot be used for hate. It design was not made by anything or anyone. That design is made so it cannot be tamper by anyone or anything. Thus the reason why their are no words that can tell it in its full truth.

I do not see my self as better than all of you, nor do I see myself more Superior and more evolve than you. With this understanding, it help me understand things fast, and see more than what other people are.

[Anteroinen]

Borders, as in things that shape how you view the world, and parts of things that you believe is impossible, simple cause their is no proof of them.

If that is your definition of a border, then you have things things that shape it. You obviously have clear opinions but that is not all. You have your senses.

As for believing things that without proof... that's a really poor way to gather knowledge. If you truly had no borders, no things shaping your knowledge, you would believe absolutely everything. And yet you most obviously don't believe, for instance, that we could ever understand you. From another point of view, if you can't gather enough evidence for your claim for it to be convincing, then you have no business wondering why others reject such a claim.

Absence of evidence is piss-poor evidence, and while it is not evidence of absence, it is a reason to reject a claim.